"Experts" Wrong: Casualties Reach Seven-Month High

by: Brandon Friedman

Thu May 01, 2008 at 05:45:13 AM EDT


In the rush to cover current events, we often forget to go back and really mock the so-called "experts" who've said some of the dumber things about the war in Iraq recently.  So I want to take a few minutes this morning to do just that.  Doing so will better enable us to heap scorn on them when they attempt to say similar stupid shit in the future.

But first off, let's consider the current situation in Iraq:

51 Americans died in Iraq this past month, making April 2008 the deadliest for U.S. troops since last summer--the bloodiest of the war.  This represents a more than 30 percent increase in combat fatalities over March (during the Basra fighting).  However, more telling than that, is the fact that American deaths in Iraq are up 122 percent since December.  

In fact, here are two casualty line graphs.  The first one shows American deaths from May through December of last year.  After a spike in January (not shown), the second graph shows American deaths since February 1st of this year.  See the trends:

 

On the Iraqi side, 925 people were killed in Sadr City in April alone.  Most of these were civilians.  As Sadr City is six square miles in size, that represents roughly 150 deaths per square mile in that section of Baghdad during the month.

This is ironic considering the things many so-called "experts" were saying until recently.  In fact, the sheer magnitude of the wrongness they exhibited will likely be studied by scholars for decades to come, once this war is over.  Let's take a look at a couple:

On January 28th, Fareed Zakaria, editor of Newsweek International, made this comment:

Pity the U.S. presidential candidates. They had their positions on Iraq all worked out by last summer and have repeated them consistently ever since. But events on the ground have changed dramatically, and their rhetoric feels increasingly stale. They're fighting the Iraq War all right, but it's the wrong one.

The Democrats are having the hardest time with the new reality. Every candidate is committed to "ending the war" and bringing our troops back home. The trouble is, the war has largely ended, and precisely because our troops are in the middle of it.

The war "has largely ended," he said.  Those silly, whiny Democrats.  That's interesting because, in the last three days of April, American forces have had to initiate an invasion-like push into Sadr City with the use of heavy armor and MLRS artillery.  This push has been in response to the sustained heavy shelling the Green Zone has received for the past few weeks, and it's resulted in the deaths of 10 Americans in the last 72 hours.  Considering that this has capped off the deadliest month for Americans in Iraq in the past seven months, I'm not sure what Fareed meant when he so pompously pronounced that the war had "largely ended."

What Fareed and others of his ilk fail to see is that the violence in Iraq is cyclical.  I will keep saying this until I'm blue in the face: It's cyclical.  And it will remain that way until we leave.  For these idiots, every time violence drops off for a few weeks or months, they take it as a sign of validation and victory.  

They're completely misunderstanding what's happening.

Another "expert" who recently made a fool of himself is Frederick Kagan.  People like Kagan are the reason why someone long ago invented the expression, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."  Here's the "surge architect" in March:

The situation in Iraq today is, I think, not that fragile if we don't make the mistake of pulling out prematurely.

Kagan said the situation in Iraq was "not that fragile" only days before violence exploded across Baghdad and southern Iraq--violence that eventually led to 71 American deaths over the next six weeks and to well over 1,000 Iraqi deaths in Sadr City alone.  His "not-that-fragile" remark did not take into consideration the brewing Shia civil war that was on the verge of threatening the stability of half of Iraq.  He went on to say:

If we don't make that mistake, then I think what we're seeing in general terms is that the momentum on almost all of the trend lines is in the right direction.

Like these trend lines?

 

Again, Kagan failed to understand how American forces are acting as an irritant in the Iraqi system--and how we're inhibiting Iraqis from progressing on their own--as violent as that progress could potentially be.  When he made his comments, he failed to see the cyclical nature of the conflict.  And in so doing, he showed us once again why he's not qualified to comment on the war in Iraq.

And these aren't the only two.  Bill O'Reilly said on January 2nd that

"by all accounts, the security situation in Iraq has improved drastically in just a few months. The surge by American troops has worked."
 

Shortly thereafter, Kimberly Kagan and Max Boot also proclaimed imminent "victory" in the weeks after December's lull.  

It's a pattern: Any lull in violence and these geniuses start ranting about impending success.  And, to a person, they don't get it.  They don't get the fact that this is not only cyclical, but it's not even our fight to "win."

All we can do is continue to highlight just how wrong they are each time one of them makes another ignorant, premature prediction about the situation in Iraq.  

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Everything Is Just Hunky-Dory (4.00 / 1)
Hey TV viewers! Here's Gen. Happy Swellspin to tell you the Iraq war is going just fine. Mark Fiore. (Flash)

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson

FYI: Bubba Starr just reported from the (0.00 / 0)
Pentagon on CNN that the "P" had issued new directives concerning the reporting of 'mental' stress. Do you have access to hard copy?

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While the war may not be Vietnam, the spin surely is. (4.00 / 1)
I would highly recommend to all vets of all ages that you watch the CARRIER series on PBS and simultaneously get the "Sir! No Sir!" movie and watch it.  Here is a link: http://www.sirnosir.com/the_fi...

The juxtaposition of what is happening now on the Nimitz, and what happened in Vietnam from the moral standpoint of those doing the politicians dirty work is amazing.  Once again we have the troops on the ground/at sea having to struggle with the conflict between doing a professional job as soldiers, sailors and airmen, WHICH THEY ALL DO WELL, but doing it in a situation created by Chickenhawk politicians who haven't a clue about what it is that they are using the military for.  Listen to the variety of opinions on the Nimitz regarding "Why are we here?" and then listen to the troops who asked the same questions in Vietnam.

I will never understand why can't we get politicians who set policy by intelligently understanding what is at stake rather than reacting with their cowardly balls?  It is very easy to use your testosterone to make jingoistic speeches, but many of these people would shit themselves if they went anywhere other than the Green Zone.  My only answer is that we must make politicians enlist in any war that they insist on having.  If it is a good enough reason for us to go to war, then it is reasonable that they have the courage to fight for it.

As for the warmongering talking heads, none of whom have had the guts to join the military, piss on 'em.


All of these 'Experts" (0.00 / 0)

All of these expert's comments are typical when we measure victory in terms of casualties.  

Of course.... (4.00 / 1)
...the casualties are higher.  There is a massive operation going on in Sadr City, which has been under militia control for years.

This was not foreseen (4.00 / 1)
by "experts" like Zakaria and Kagan.  

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True, but we have been running regular missions (0.00 / 0)
to clean out Sadr City since the days of Operation Vigilant Resolve.  It seems every year there is another big push through the same six square mile area.

"No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided." - Barack Obama

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The latest spin: JAM (aka Mahdi Army) is a goner (4.00 / 1)
As Iraqi politicians rally to isolate Maliki's Green Zone regime, the Bush administration and its remaining supporters seem to be living in an alternate reality.

Some commenters over at The Long War Journal apparently believe the official story 100 percent...

JAM might soon be ending. The Sadrists appear to be divided between those that want negotiations and those that want to fight and so far Sadr is going with violence. I think he's a survivor though, and am surprised he hasn't backed down and cut a deal like he has in the past. I think that's what he'll ultimately do, but he'll have to give up a large portion of his militia and watch mutch of it destroyed in the fighting until he does.



OMG, on top of this (0.00 / 0)
scheisse muckle dung, CNN just had a little thing about the Iraqi Oil Revenues increasing with the USA still footing the bill. Some Iraqi Baghdad Bob Replacement just said that we [the USA] should be glad  that Iraq was doing so well.

I seem to recall that Iraqi Oil production is actually down. That they are only benefiting from the increasing price of a barrel of crude. Wonder how much profit the black marketeers are making these days? Not to mention the outrageous profits the bushkabob buddies are making.

Anyway, Brandon you should cross post this at dKos. They have actually had some diaries about "Mission Accomplished", etc.  

FYI: the population of Sadr City was listed at 2.5 million. Assume that was in 03. Pretty hard for a 'surgical strike' with that kind of density.  


This goes back to what I've said before. (0.00 / 0)
I know it sounds callous and cruel and mean.  But it is true.  It doesn't matter how many casualties there are.  If the mission is a noble one, if we are in Iraq for the right reasons, then it is worth the cost.  If the mission is that important and the cause is just, then it is worth the price in blood and treasure.

However, if the mission is not a noble one.  If we are there to prop up the Maliki government, for nation-building, or for any other reason than to defend the safety and security of America, then even one death is too many.

"No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided." - Barack Obama


Well said (0.00 / 0)
I could not have said it better myself.  

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