Email Shows Evidence of a Rotten Policy within the VA

by: Brandon Friedman

Thu May 15, 2008 at 15:00:28 PM EDT


This is from a joint VoteVets.org/ CREW statement this morning:

Today, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) and VoteVets.org released an e-mail obtained from a Veterans Affairs (VA) employee directing VA staff to refrain from diagnosing soldiers and veterans with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

On March 20, 2008 a VA hospital's PTSD program coordinator sent an e-mail to a number of VA employees, including psychologists, social workers, and a psychiatrist stating that due to an increased number of "compensation seeking veterans," the staff should "refrain from giving a diagnosis of PTSD straight out" and they should "R/O [rule out] PTSD" and consider a diagnosis of "Adjustment Disorder" instead.

Here's the actual email:

Here's the deal: At VoteVets, we hear anecdotal evidence all the time from returning veterans that the VA is trying to cut costs and to save resources by not diagnosing people with PTSD.  We hear suspicious stories about the VA diagnosing vets with personality disorders or adjustment disorders.  But we've never seen proof that there was an organized policy within the VA, or that there were directives coming from the top to actually do this.  And that's why this email is so important.  This email--sent by a VA Medical Center PTSD coordinator--directly ties the diagnosis to monetary concerns and not to the medical condition.  

As the vast majority of VA caregivers are superb, unfortunately, we need to find out if they're being pressured by higher up to give these diagnoses.  How high up the chain does this cost-cutting policy go?  Is this an over-zealous PTSD coordinator?  A rogue hospital?  Or is this coming from the highest levels of the Bush administration?  We just don't know yet.  But, given past anecdotal evidence, this email isn't the type of thing you allow to come across your desk without doing anything.  And that's why we're working with CREW to take action:

This week, CREW sent a Freedom of Information Act request to the VA asking for all records pertaining to any guidance given regarding the diagnosis of PTSD.

One way or another, we're going to get to the bottom of this.  This has gone on too long, and if this email is not an isolated incident--which anecdotal evidence seems to suggest it isn't--then the troops don't deserve this.

Treating PTSD in returning veterans is a cost of war.  And if that's not happening, then someone needs to stand before the American people and provide us with some answers.

We'll keep you updated on what the response is.

UPDATE: If you know of a veteran in a situation like this who would be willing to speak out, please have him or her contact me at brandon (at) vetvoice (dot) com.  Thanks!

UPDATE: This story has now been picked up by the AP and the Military Times.

UPDATE: Keith Olbermann talked about this story in his "Bushed" segment this evening.  Here's the clip:

UPDATE: The VA responds:

VA Secretary James Peake acknowledged in a statement that the e-mail did come from a VA facility, but said it's not official policy.

"A single staff member, out of VA's 230,000 employees, in a single medical facility sent a single e-mail with suggestions that are inappropriate and have been repudiated at the highest level of our health-care organization," he said. "The employee has been counseled and is extremely apologetic."

That's what we're going to find out.  Our FOIA request still stands.

UPDATE: The story has now been covered by CBS News and the Washington Post.

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The system is fixed? (4.00 / 1)

We heard a lot of talk after Walter Reed about how much we were going to do to fix both the DoD and VA medical systems, to include making sure that they were able to diagnose properly.

But then we see an email like this and tucked into it is this little gem(among others)

Additionally we don't or have the time to do the extensive testing that should be done to determine PTSD.

How is it that we are told that things are going to be fixed and they never are. This administration has turned its backs on Veterans and Active Duty Military Personnel.

I do not know how anyone can support these turds in office that say they support the troops then bend them over the barrel every chance they got.

I bet if BlackWater or Halliburton/KBR employees had these problems everything would be fixed in about 4 hours.

Shows you who they really care about.


If the administration has turned their backs on you... (4.00 / 1)
...you have every right to turn your back on them.  That is the Golden Rule after all.  They've demonstrated to you through their actions how they would like you to treat them.

[ Parent ]
What I want to know... (4.00 / 3)
...is what all these Baby Boomer politicians, who have all this guilt over how shitty Vietnam Vets got treated, are doing.  I'm glad there's vets in positions that can pressure congress on this.  We need to look out for ourselves.

[ Parent ]
LT (0.00 / 0)
You should have figured it out by now, Words, i.e. 'Support The Troops', or like 'Lapel Flag Pins', you're 'Patriotic'!

Oh and the boomers, most of them, sitting in the halls of power were our 'chickenhawks', they didn't give a crap one way or the other about 'Nam except that they didn't like the Anti-War folks, and Really Hated us 'Nam Vets that protested, In-Country and back In The World!

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


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Wow (4.00 / 1)
This just saddens me. Unbeilevably.

[ Parent ]
I second that (4.00 / 1)
all I can say is "wow."

[ Parent ]
hahahahah (4.00 / 1)
you watch too much tv . . . hmm, I watch too much tv.

[ Parent ]
You Vets (4.00 / 3)
Are getting the Same treatment 'Nam Vets got, and Vets before that and PTSD was even recognized!!

Reason many of us have been fighting for greater recognition of Post tramatic Stress. studing Combat PTSD would bring not only a better understanding of the damage of War but help greatly the civilian populations whose great numbers suffer in silence and effect all around them, with no one understanding the reasons why!!

Great Catch on the E though!

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


There is an adverse relationship (4.00 / 2)
between vets and VA.

Prospective soldiers should take this into account in deciding whether to step forward across the line and take the oath.


This is bullshit (4.00 / 2)
if heads dont roll over this then there is no justice in the world.

I'm on twitter.

Justice (0.00 / 0)
I've decided there is no justice. There is only fighting back or giving in, and that list of veterans running for Congress on the right side of this screen.

Noriega is closing the gap on Cronyn. Let's help him. Let's help all these guys running.  


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Not surprising, but sad... (4.00 / 2)
This treatment of vets is abysmal.  I see this sort of stuff every few weeks in the eyes of the vets I transport to VA clinics and hospitals.  The vets get too little respect and are more of a chore than VIPs to many doctors and staff personnel.  Ughhh.

You go this onto MSNBC. (4.00 / 1)
Great job.

Do you remember the VDB Commission's report from 10/07? (4.00 / 1)
I read that last year and wrote this note to you guys about it then:
what stands out is how appalled the VDBC is that 31% of those with a PTSD diagnosis are IU, and the suggestion, then, that vets are gaming the system (that's their words) because only 8% of other disabled vets are IU.

This is the likely trickle down of official statements that make such connotations.  


It Says 103 Articles (0.00 / 0)
But Link Only Gives You 7, the rest must be pickups of the Wire Services reports.

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson

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