McCain Doesn't Disagree that We Might Need a Draft

by: Brandon Friedman

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 15:35:16 PM EDT


This is absolutely amazing.  A woman told John McCain today that we might need a draft to accomplish all his foreign policy goals.  And he said he didn't disagree.  

So there you have it: McCain = Draft.  Here's the response from VoteVets:

VETERANS REACT TO MCCAIN'S ADMISSION THAT HE'LL NEED A MILITARY DRAFT

WASHINGTON - Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans today reacted to John McCain's statement that he doesn't disagree that we would need a military draft to do everything he wants.  At a town hall in Las Cruces, NM, a woman said she could not see doing everything McCain wanted, and would not have the troops under his plan to follow Osama bin Laden to the "gates of hell" without a draft.  In response, McCain said, "I don't disagree with anything you said."  The video of that can be viewed here:

Jon Soltz, Iraq War Veteran and Chairman of VoteVets.org said, "At least Senator McCain is being honest.  A vote for him is a vote for the draft.  Period.  Unless Senator McCain radically changes his worldview, there would be a draft to implement his plans."

Soltz added, "When you take into account his indefinite military commitment to Iraq, his desire to send more troops to Afghanistan, record lows in recruiting and retention, and possibly more wars he is looking to get into, like "Bomb Bomb Bomb" Iran, his numbers don't add up without a draft.  Whether America likes it or not isn't relevant - a draft is the only way to do everything Senator McCain wants to do.  I give him points for being honest and upfront, though, that we're going to need a draft if he is elected."

This isn't the first time that Senator McCain has hinted at a reinstitution of the draft if he is elected.  Asked on September 29, 2007 in New Hampshire about the draft, McCain said he would "consider it."

I think a better solution would be to engage in fewer--and only necessary--wars.  The professional military can handle that just fine.
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McCain Doesn't Disagree that We Might Need a Draft | 38 comments
Personally I would favor a draft (4.00 / 4)
but for a totally different reason.  If everyone truly has a stake in the game, then we will think twice before we rush into an invasion.  

In other words, I would rather have a draft so that we would have less wars.  McCain wants a draft so he can start more.

"No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided." - Barack Obama

You are absolutely right on. (0.00 / 0)

[ Parent ]
McCain and Bush (0.00 / 0)
You must understand the person who is running the country and McCain.
Neither one of them served their country honorably. Bush deserted and hide behind daddy's money and McCain was a POW. When I took the oath. I was trained to escape and evade enemy capture at all cost. To me this means I will fight to the death before capture. Something he did not do.
Now all both care about is how much money they can make for their friends and family and do not care about the people who have to fight these needless wars over OIL. If he wants a draft and to start a new war or continue the old one bush started. Maybe Bush and McCain should pick up a weapon and go to the front and fight it.
Were you (4.00 / 1)
ever actually a POW?
[ Parent ]
Ok tough guy, seriously? (0.00 / 0)
 
Bush deserted and hide behind daddy's money and McCain was a POW.

I have little to no respect for McShame however, evading Vietnam like Bush is not in anyway whatsoever the same as McCain being a POW.

Dammit, i agree with Fred ;-)

[ Parent ]
Well, shoot--was he supposed to roll under the water (0.00 / 0)
with his broken body and emerge from the water with a bolo knife in his teeth and stab the nearest North Vietnamese citizen with the thing?

He did do what he could to get away--no one should question that.

I think you need to check your facts on the shootdown.

Now, here's something I believe should be looked into, though--did McCain do a "wet start" on the deck of the USS Forrestal and cause the chain reaction accident that nearly took out the ship? And careful about your answer, because the investigation was tainted by the presence of his daddy; just as his daddy Admiral McCain tainted the investigation of what happened with the USS Liberty.

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i welcome the draft (4.00 / 1)
Make all young people, male and female, 18-25 eligible.  Don't offer any deferrals for college either.  Once some rich kids have to go to Iraq, the policies of our government will change very quickly.
No, we need to go further than that.. (4.00 / 1)
Make everyone up to age 65 eligible and put the old folks in paper pushing support jobs where ever they are needed.  Every one's life needs to be disrupted.  

You serve according to your ability.
No Deferments.

Oh...and everyone in the Congress should get Congressional leave and have a mandatory  six months service somewhere in the mortuary sections.

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I hope (0.00 / 0)
Vote Vets hammers this point home to the American public.  They need to understand what it is they are voting on in November.  

Maybe if the public knows it will have to participate, that will spark more interest in forcing the politicians to come up with realistic solutions to the two current wars.

Joh Soltz on Keith Olberman (0.00 / 0)
Thank you, Jon, for explaining to the nation on TV, exactly what this draft issue would encompass and how scary McCain is regarding this issue.  

I have to believe that something extraordinary is possible. (Mrs. John Nash)
You guys are on crack (0.00 / 0)
If I were you guys I would ask yourself why you are so easily influenced by liberal talking points.  

McCain has never said he would have a draft???

I like the passion you guys have, but you need to try and think for yourselves and develop your own opinions instead of repeating what you hear on MSNBC, or dailykos.  

I know that's where you get your information because they are the only venues that offer those radical liberal viewpoints.  There is a reason why MSNBC finishes dead last every month in network cable news ratings....  educated people understand that the only deliver one view point....

You can't rely on one source for your information, just like conservatives can't just listen to rush or hannity.  If you guys took the time to research the information on your own you won't sound like morons....    

Oh yeah on Fox triples MSNBCs ratings ever night, maybe you guys will learn that these viewpoints are uneducated and not shared by informed people.

Do you have a point or cheapass soundbites? (0.00 / 0)
McCain has been repeatedly caught on tape saying he would support a draft.

He doesn't know one day to the next who to pander to more--the people who think one thing or think another. He is constantly changing his stories, his positions, and his principles in order to get elected.

The only one burning their lips on the old crack pipe is you, dude.

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wrong again (0.00 / 0)
The only time McCain said he would even think about a draft is if we had WWIII.  

If you can find the quote: "I support a draft" I would love to know about it.

[ Parent ]
Liar-- (0.00 / 0)
QUESTIONER: If we don't reenact the draft, I don't think we'll have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell.

[Appaluse]

MCCAIN: Ma'am, let me say that I don't disagree with anything you said.

World War III doesn't factor into it--World War III wasn't even mentioned when he "didn't disagree" with the woman who said we needed a draft to get more troops to go after Bin Laden. You're just trying to use the same tired spin his incompetent campaign staffers are using.

And, you failed. Pretty miserably, too.

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almost... (0.00 / 0)
what MSNBC neglected to tell you was that lady's question was over 2 minutes long.   So they edited out her entire question so viewers would assume that when he said "I don't disagree with anything you said"  he was referring to reenacting the draft.  It was a clever trick by the liberal media outlet to get Obama supporters to think that McCain wants a draft.

Think about logically, not with emotion, what good will a draft does to catch one guy.....

It's similar to when conservative pundits take a comment like "a typical white person" out of context its sounds bad, but with the entire sound byte you understand what Obama means...

Remember use logic not emotion and you will understand this stuff better  

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Oh yeah (0.00 / 0)
And for my literate readers I think my point was very clear.... don't get all your information from a single viewpoint
[ Parent ]
Ha! (0.00 / 0)
The single viewpoint I get my news from is what he actually fucking says in public and his actual fucking quotes...

How devastating is it to realize that I'm not giving you someone's opinion, spin, or bullshit--

I'm quoting him!

Bwa!

[ Parent ]
..... (0.00 / 0)
Your single viewpoint was a spun story by MSNBC which mislead you to think that McCain wants a draft to catch a single person.  
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yeah warren, jeez. (0.00 / 0)
Its not like there's a video where one can watch  McCain say exactly what you quoted...

What's that? There is? Crap.

Hey Joe come up with another excuse quick will ya! These damn liberals are using quotes, facts, citations, and videos! Stupid truth, always getting in the way.

[ Parent ]
read the whole post Bert (0.00 / 0)
what MSNBC neglected to tell you was that lady's question was over 2 minutes long.   So they edited out her entire question so viewers would assume that when he said "I don't disagree with anything you said"  he was referring to reenacting the draft.  It was a clever trick by the liberal media outlet to get Obama supporters to think that McCain wants a draft.
Think about logically, not with emotion, what good will a draft does to catch one guy.....

It's similar to when conservative pundits take a comment like "a typical white person" out of context its sounds bad, but with the entire sound byte you understand what Obama means...

Remember use logic not emotion and you will understand this stuff better  


[ Parent ]
relax.... (0.00 / 0)
try scrolling up sweetness, you'll find a video which includes the full question you speak of that apparently you've never seen because I'm sure you wouldn't purposefully lie to make a point, would you?

Remember use logic not emotion and you will understand this stuff better  

Its like bizarro world again.

[ Parent ]
Yeah, there's nothing like (0.00 / 0)
not actually fucking reading the post and watching the video and shooting your idiot mouth off about shit you know nothing about, and then getting your sorry ass handed back to you in a Safeway bag...

Grab both handles and skeedaddle now, son. You're done.

[ Parent ]
"Educated" people... (0.00 / 0)
...don't sit around watching t.v. all day. It's much easier to build your ratings with dumbass losers than with educated people, so I wouldn't take those Fox ratings to mean anything special.
[ Parent ]
wrong again (0.00 / 1)
Your right educated people don't sit around watching TV all day, they wear a suite and go to work everyday.  The ratings I'm referring to are at night with O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes which are 3x more than CNN and MSNBC everyday....

Uneducated people make silly assumptions, refuse to acknowledge other view points and only feel comfortable conversing with a people that share their radical views.  

Not to mention come up with childish responses like "dumbass losers"....

Here get your life on track so you can come back with a little more than 4th grade insults: http://www.phoenix.edu/

[ Parent ]
Bullshit, Joe. (0.00 / 0)
I think we can safely say there are at least "3X's" as many stupid people in this country as smart people. If not, how could a man named Michael Weiner have changed his name to Michael Savage and become a radio host without getting his ass laughed off the air? How could the Miss America Pageant always get top ratings? How could Starbucks have ever jacked the price of a cup of coffee to over five bucks and stayed in business for more than a day? And how could Bush have ever been elected to a second term? Face it, most people are pretty dumb...

...Joe.

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almost (0.00 / 0)
that ratio is closer to 1000 to 1,  your examples are piss poor but your right most people are pretty dumb.  And I will give you credit I didn't know Savage got a name change.
[ Parent ]
Damn, you're still here? (4.00 / 1)
Glutton for abuse.
[ Parent ]
I'm older than a lot of you here, (4.00 / 2)
and I can tell you from experience that if there is a draft, no matter what, there will still be people who manage to skip out on their service, and they won't all be rich kids or senators' sons. But I can tell you also that there is a price to pay for it. When there's a draft, the military makes its quota no matter what. If someone skips out, someone else gets snatched. I can't look at any of the names after 1970 on the Vietnam War Memorial without wondering if one of them is the guy who got snatched in my place while I hung out in school. The problem is, when you're young you have no regrets because you haven't lived long enough to understand that nobody gets a free ride. When you're old enough to understand that, you're no longer eligible for service. Someday there will be an OIF/OEF memorial, and there's going to be some college republicans who are in for a surprise their not going to like very much. You folks who did your service, draft or no draft, will never have to worry about that.

Nobody gets a free ride. There is always a price to pay. Pay it now or pay it later.

Oh. (0.00 / 0)
"The ratings I'm referring to are at night with O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes which are 3x more than CNN and MSNBC everyday....

Uneducated people make silly assumptions, refuse to acknowledge other view points and only feel comfortable conversing with a people that share their radical views."

You mean like O'Reilly, Hannity, and Colmes?

Also, Mr. Educated,

"...educated people don't sit around watching TV all day, they wear a suite and go to work everyday."

They wear a suite? Do you mean  educated people all work in hotels? I didn't know that.

If a draft is needed, bring it (0.00 / 0)
The disconnection between those of us with military experience and those without is getting broader.  Maybe if everyone had to serve, the far left and the far right would return to reality.

Although looking at the video, the woman started out with a serious issue then petered off into all different directions.  McCain's response seemed to be similar to what any of us would say to an inane comment......Give a response that gets the person to shut up so you can move on to the issues.

Well (4.00 / 2)
I will support a draft. That is if we insist on continuing to launch wars against Wahhabis, Khomeinists, and whoever the hell else.  However, I think we could avoid the need for a draft if we simply quit fucking around with the rest of the world and let them sort their own problems out.
nice post! (0.00 / 0)
That's amazing. We are surprised to hear that. sleeper sofa bed
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