Obama Got It Right in Afghanistan/Pakistan

by: Jon Soltz

Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 11:19:46 AM EDT


For those of us who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, it was extremely important that the new President get the situation in Afghanistan right.  Not just for America's security, but for those troops still in Afghanistan, and those heading to Afghanistan to put their lives on the line in the war.  With today's announcement, President Obama has shown that he "gets it."   That's why we at VoteVets.org are supporting the plan with a petition, which you can sign on to, right here.

There's a lot to like about the plan.  But, there are three key things I'm particularly focused on, that represent a stark departure from the previous administration. They show that this President not only has reasonable goals in the region, but a good idea of what it will take to get there.

Point One:  The Military Can't Do It All

The President recognizes that the war against terrorists requires much more than just throwing troops at the problem.  That alone will go a long way towards setting policies that make America safer, and taking the burden off our military.

The President said today, "To advance security, opportunity, and justice - not just in Kabul, but from the bottom up in the provinces - we need agricultural specialists and educators; engineers and lawyers.... These investments relieve the burden on our troops. They contribute directly to security. They make the American people safer. And they save us an enormous amount of money in the long run - because it is far cheaper to train a policeman to secure their village or to help a farmer seed a crop, than it is to send our troops to fight tour after tour of duty with no transition to Afghan responsibility."

This is key, and something that was lacking in the region for a long time.  Those hardline radicals who want to take control thrive on poverty and misery of the people.  The single best thing we can do to ensure that the Afghan people aren't so destitute and broken that they're tempted to join these radicals, is to send civilian training and humanitarian aid.  

Jon Soltz :: Obama Got It Right in Afghanistan/Pakistan
Point Two:  Though it's the "War in Afghanistan," we need to treat it like a region

That the President made a point of including Pakistan in this strategy, offering greater aid to them if the Pakistani government makes more of an effort to work and coordinate with us, is as smart as it is practical.

Everyone - myself included - has not helped when we bind the efforts in the region under the name "The War in Afghanistan."  This is a regional problem, that requires a regional solution.

President Obama understands to get the support of the Pakistani people, which will make it easier to get the help we need from the Pakistani government, it takes carrots.  And his plan focuses squarely on that.  His support for legislation sponsored by Senators John Kerry and Richard Lugar that authorizes $1.5 billion in direct support to the Pakistani people every year over the next five years, along with another bill that creates opportunity zones in the border region will go a long way towards getting the cooperation we need to really focus in on al Qaeda, and close in on them from the Pakistani and Afghan sides of the border region.

Point Three:  There is a tighter focus, open to reaching out to some of the enemy

Maybe most importantly, this President has given up the pipe dream of setting up a European-style democracy in Afghanistan, and instead has refocused our goals on a more urgent mission - protecting America and the world from terrorism.

We've finally left fantasy-land, where America can simply go somewhere, topple a government, and western-style democracies will pop up and thrive.  Afghanistan is a very different beast.  And, while the President committed to helping build out infrastructure for the Afghan people, and improve the lives of the Pakistani people, he's not letting dreams of a grand new western democracy get in the way of more practical and tighter goals - namely, fighting al Qaeda and taking the region away as a home base for the terror network, forever.

To do so, the President recognized something that I wrote about last week - there are elements throughout the region that are fighting us now, but could become our partners.  This might have been the most striking parts of the President's speech:

"There is an uncompromising core of the Taliban. They must be met with force, and they must be defeated. But there are also those who have taken up arms because of coercion, or simply for a price. These Afghans must have the option to choose a different course. That is why we will work with local leaders, the Afghan government, and international partners to have a reconciliation process in every province. As their ranks dwindle, an enemy that has nothing to offer the Afghan people but terror and repression must be further isolated. And we will continue to support the basic human rights of all Afghans - including women and girls."

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Now, will everything go exactly according to plan?  Of course not.  Nor is this going to be quick.  But with the points above, and the rest that the President laid out, those of us who served finally have confidence that this President gets it, and will keep us on the right course - the reasonable and practical course.  That's something we veterans have been waiting for.

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Great, Jon. (4.00 / 1)
Excellent.

This is definitely a good start (4.00 / 1)
So, I signed the petition and posted its link on my Facebook page, and I submitted this story to digg (which is also imported on my Facebook).  Just to let you know that someone does use these tools ...

"No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided." - Barack Obama

Afghan patriotism (0.00 / 0)
On NPR, an Afghan general said Afghans had been resisting foreign occupation for 6000 years.  They are unlikely to embrace American occupation or NATO occupation or U.N. occupation.  Decent Afghans (and Iraqis) have a patriotic duty to kill Americans.  How can we deny that?  How can we overcome that?

Well..... (0.00 / 0)
They don't like the Taliban either.  Polls show they support us more than them, but as you say, they do resist foreigners overall.  I suppose we'll just have to win them over with our values.

E. Redding


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what's with the troll rating? (0.00 / 0)
The comment is not how I would put it and I don't necessarily agree but it's a valid point to discuss not dismiss. Is it some bogus lie that some afghans at least believe its their patriotic duty to resist Americans? I think intellectual honestly requires discussion not dismissal. I always ask myself would I resist even a benevolent invader? I honestly think I just might.

But hey maybe godidtwaddle is just trying to stir shit up.


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I misread it. (0.00 / 0)
I thought godistwaddle was saying "decent Afghans (and Iraqis) have a patriotic duty to kill Americans."  But I guess he/she is quoting the general.

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Rieckhoff had a Face Book snip (0.00 / 0)
After Barack spoke, and this is what I replied to that:

He did comes across as what should have been as we sent you folks in initially, Forceful and with the Needs, that should have followed the initial invasion and take down of the Taliban, all combined.
But we've watched, especially us 'Nam Vets, as the idea of Counter Insurgency, i.e. Winning Hearts and Minds, has been extremely badly damaged.
My HOPE is there, but my view of the reality isn't, and that HOPE I wish will be proven wrong.
Sadly we haven't been since this all started, both theaters!!

I didn't add but thought of further, we're also losing the 'Hearts and Minds' of many Pakistanis, as well as other regional peoples, in the way we're handling the cross border use of ordinance. Not wanting to put troops into greater danger these drone flights can be viewed in the negative there. An unmanned plane dropping bombs controlled from miles away can be viewed as not hitting the intended targets or are easy use of propaganda if they really are. Just saying they did don't work when dead children and women are seen.

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


The problem of having Americans directing the infrastructure and (0.00 / 0)
economic improvements that will change Afghanistan, and relegate the Taliban to a tiny ineffective bunch, is that Americans would be directing.

There are numerous and effective small organizations working there right now to do what Jon and Obama are talking about.  And they are Afghan organizations--most organized and supported by Afghan residents and citizens of the U.S.-- running on shoestrings but really working, one person and one village at a time.

A lot of them have found that U.S. money is hard to come by.  U.S. government programs have such incredible bureaucracy and unrealistic guidelines (mostly, you have to already have money to get it) that the groups run on drips of private funding.

One of these is called "Innovation Democracy," entering its third year of operation.   Graduating university students there are offered nuts and bolts instruction in starting and maintaining businesses.  The program is paid for by outside funding, and the director is the fundraiser.  This coming-up session, there are 66 students signed up and she just found that her expected support from Sweden has been put off for a year.  She has less than two weeks to find the money for the classes (taught by highly qualified economists and business people).  Students who have taken this course actually have established businesses in the country that are providing income and economic structure.

A concerted effort to streamline U.S. aid to Afghan rebuilding would be the first really productive step to take.


Several Issues (0.00 / 0)
A. Why should the "moderate" elements of the Taliban be willing to talk to us right now? Many of them are probably with the Taliban to be on the winning side, and we are not winning.

B. Why do we continue to insist that Europe get involved? The Europeans do have a history of occupation in these particular regions, and the peoples of these regions have long memories.

C. Are we thinking our dealings with regional governments   through? Not saying we should or shouldn't do it, but there are some major negatives there as well.  


Watch Tonight (0.00 / 0)
Tonight, 3.27.09, on the PBS News Hour:
Margaret Warner interviews U.S. Central Command head Gen. David Petraeus and special envoy Richard Holbrooke on newly unveiled U.S. plans for the Afghan-Pakistan region.

If missed they'll have the transcript and audio at their site later than the video.

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


Obama Got It Wrong (4.00 / 2)
As the mother of an Iraq veteran, who has a nephew at FOB Salerno in Afghanistan right now, I am very disappointed in VoteVets for supporting the continuance and escalation of this occupation that has cost so many lives already, and caused so much destruction and disruption in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Enough is enough. I voted for Obama in the hopes that someone would bring common sense to the presidency--but this is not common sense. Most lives being lost are those of civilian, men, women and children. The idea that this somehow makes the world safer for Americans is outrageous.

Many people voted for Obama because they wanted an end to these wars, and supported VoteVets for the same reason. But what we are seeing now is not bringing peace in either Iraq or Afghanistan. And the outright inclusion of Pakistan in the plan is disturbing. This is not bringing and end to war--it is spreading it.

Jeri L. Reed
Norman, Oklahoma
Mother of Iraq Vet
Aunt of Army Soldier serving now in Afghanistan


Pipe-Dreams? (0.00 / 0)
Why is democracy in Afghanistan a 'pipe-dream'?

Democracy in America might be a 'pipe-dream', but in central asia it could work. Direct democracy, clean elections, with paper ballots and purple fingers, and little media propaganda.

Why are we escalating the War on this region?

Our military don't belong there, and there is no evidence that any so called 'terrorists' from the region attacked us, either on 9/11/01, or that they plan to attack us in the future. It's all a MILITARY PIPE DREAM.

Osama Bin Laden is a scape-goat, he isn't even on the FBI most wanted, because they have no evidence linking him with any crime.

Yes, the religious fundamentalists (i.e. Taliban) have values opposed to ours, they kill their own women, and enslave their girls, but that is no reason to step into THEIR sovereign nation, it's not our job, and we wouldn't let them do it to us.

We have our own fundamentalists, right here in the USA, they invoke their gods and put their warriors in bomber jets, then send them around the world to kill civilians.

Would the REAL terrorists please stand up?

I see no evidence that we need 1000 Military bases world wide. We need to bring our troops home, and let other peoples deal with their own problems. Not that we shouldn't be involved, diplomatically, educationally, with healthcare, and commerce, and food production, but you don't need weapons for that.

Let them grow poppies, let them kill themselves off, get the US out of their yard. They are NOT our responsibility. They are no threat to us. Protect us, not them.


But at the (0.00 / 0)
same time, to say that "Obama Got it Right" is incorrect. We haven't seen results of what he plans to do one way or the other, and the plan is not a slam dunk.  

I was hesitant on your title... (4.00 / 2)
I read the title of your diary and needless to say my eyes rolled.

I too have served multiple tours now in Iraq and Afghanistan. Except, I am probably one of the few who first served in Kuwait/Iraq well more than a decade ago.

In regards to Points One, Two and Three, they are acceptable and reasonable.

But as someone who bears the burden of the collective history of the US Army that both you and I love, we as yet do not know if the President has it "right."

On March 8, 2009, on the watch of President Obama, Soldiers from across the United States serving in the IRR reported for mobilization processing.

Today, we learn that 4,000 Drill Sergeants will be ordered to train the Afghan Army. That will reach deep within the US Army Reserve.

The President has time, but that time is indeed short.

Should he not support the troops by action and deed, he will be hated as much as George W. Bush.


In the image of the British Empire? (0.00 / 0)
I was fortunate to have served an active duty tour with the British Army.

They are fortunate in that they share and understand a collective history spanning almost 300 years.

Are we retrying to remake Afghanistan into our own image? Because if we are, we are doomed to fail.



The "old man" and Vietnam (0.00 / 0)
Unfortunately, my brothers from Vietnam and yes they are our brothers, no longer are in service today.

My drill sergeants as a young private, my ROTC Instructors as a Cadet and a First Sergeant that guided me as an O-2 in the Persian Gulf War were all veterans of Vietnam, a War that I did not "know." However, they taugt me lessons and gave me warnings that I and a few others would carry into the 21st Century.

It is with that experience, I remain both hopeful and fearful that the new President, a man of my generation, may repeat the failure and loss of another generation.

I serve this man, most humbly, and pray that he be guided.


Experience and History (0.00 / 0)
However, they taught me lessons and gave me warnings that I and a few others would carry into the 21st Century.

It is with that experience, I remain both hopeful and fearful that the new President, a man of my generation, may repeat the failure and loss of another generation.

Just had to chime in and acknowledge the words above.  So true.  Personally, I understand those thoughts exactly because of very similar experiences.

On one hand, the "new and improved" Afghan mission seems lofty and principled; on the other, it's riddled with unknowns, misunderstandings of culture, and an enemy without timelines.  In four years or so, I hope we won't still be justifying even more time, money, and troops to this "noble" cause.


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