Fox News Analyst: Taliban Could Save Us "Hassles" by Killing Captured Soldier

by: Brandon Friedman

Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 12:04:38 PM EDT


Watch retired Army Lt. Col., Fox News military analyst, and execution enthusiast Ralph Peters piss away his credibility by suggesting the Taliban could "save us a lot of legal hassles" by executing Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl:

I'll be the first to admit that something about this incident doesn't smell right.  But proposing that an American soldier should be executed by the Taliban is extraordinarily inappropriate at best--regardless of whether or not the soldier is a deserter.  

Such proclamations aren't unusual for Peters, however.  He actually has a bizarre penchant for executions.  Recently, Peters stated his lusty desire to see the U.S. government execute all prisoners at Guantanamo Bay--without regard for their legal rights, and in spite of the fact that, in his own words, "there will be miscarriages of justice."  And in another instance in May of this year, Peters also called for "military attacks on the partisan media."

Ralph just wants to see some executions.  Doesn't matter who.  Soldier, terrorist, just anybody.  Somebody needs to die.  Now.

The full transcript is below the fold.

Brandon Friedman :: Fox News Analyst: Taliban Could Save Us "Hassles" by Killing Captured Soldier
Here's the transcript (via Daily Kos):

JULIE BANDERAS (FOX NEWS): "So when one of our troops is captured, how do we get him back?  How do we get him back safely?  Strategic analyst Lt. Col. Ralph Peters joins us now. Thank you so much for talking to us.  When he was capture don June 30th, apparently Bergdahl was captured while he walked away from his U.S. base camp.  Many people are emailing me, and asking, 'How can a soldier walk off from a base on his own?  Wouldnt there always be another soldier with him?  Wouldn't he be partnered with another person?'  What can you tell us about that?"

RALPH PETERS: "Well, Julie, I was to stress first of all that we must wait until all of the facts are in until we make a final judgment.  But nobody in the military that I've heard is defending this guy.  He is an apparent deserter.  Reports are indeed that he abandoned his buddies, abandoned his post, and walked off.  We'll see what the ultimate truth of it is, but if he did, if he's a deserter at wartime, well, as one of my old platoon sargeants would say, he's in 'boku deep kimchi.'  Now there's another problem Julie.  On that video, he is collaborating with the enemy.  Under duress or not--that's really not relevant--he's making accusations about the behavior of the military in Afghanistan that are unfounded, saying that there are no rules, he's lying about how he was captured, saying he lagged behind the patrol.  Julie, I'll tell you, any 11th bravo infantrymen will tell you, that's not how it works.  In a war zone, any soldier is aware of where all his buddies are.  If it's a night patrol, you're sure aware of where the guy in front of you and behind you is.  So we know that this private is a liar.  We're not sure if he's a deserter.  But the media needs to hit the pause button, and not portray this guy as a hero."

BANDERAS: "Wow.  All right, well, I mean, obviously I don't want to speculate here.  From what I know, what we know as a news agency, we watched this video - first of all, the reason we are not airing the video, the network has decided we will not air this video, because that is what his captors want.  They want that message to get out there, and we're not going to do the Taliban any favors here.  But in a case like this, where a soldier is taken captive, how does the military prepare for this, number one, and how do they get their guy back?"

PETERS: "Well, the military prepares for it by rigorous training.  All soldiers know the code of conduct, what you are allowed to do, and not allowed to do, when you're in enemy hands.  And there are strict limits.  And they're for sensible reasons, because you don't want to betray information about your unit, your buddies, battle plans, etc.  As far as getting him back... we don't know.  First of all, I would bet that he's not even in Afghanistan anymore, I'd bet he's across the border in Pakistan.  I don't know that.  The best bet getting him back is tipsters, surveillance, special operations.  For right now, I think he's okay.  They're not going to kill him right away, if at all, because he is tremendous propaganda value.  He's making anti-American statements, I mean, he wants to investigate Islam, blah blah blah.

Now look, Julie, I want to be clear.  If, when the facts are in, we find out that through some convoluted chain of events, he really was captured by the Taliban, I'm with him.  But, if he walked away from his post and his buddies at wartime... I don't care how hard it sounds, as far as I'm concerned, the Taliban can save us a lot of legal hassles and legal bills.

BANDERAS: "All right, Lt. Col. Ralph Peters, thank you very very much.  Regardless of what the situation is, we do not want to see any U.S. soldier in harm's way.  And we hope this guy gets out of there safely, he's an American, he's one of ours..."

PETERS (INTERRUPTING): "Hey Julie, think about his buddies.  Think about his buddies."

BANDERAS: "Yeah.  And of course everyone who's over there, and in his group.  All right, thank you very much for talking to us."

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I don't want the Government to have Parental Control of what goes on Air, (4.00 / 1)
but since Fox continues to give this nutjob a mike I'm thinking that a Black-Ops mission to duck tape this guy and dump him in a closet might be called for.

Can only guess how this played on Big Screens in Messes around the Globe.

Story seems to be winding down. The family won't talk and McChrystal has announced that recovering Bowe is a top priority. Hoping that the next we hear is that he has been returned alive.


Unless Peters (0.00 / 0)
is privy to information that we don't know about, then I am calling his comments way, way over the top and deserving of criticms. However, I will also say that ideas of censorship and locking him away in a closet are equally ridiculous. Unlike most of the pundits we are constantly subject to, I have actually known Peters to make good points on more than one occasion.  

You Should (4.00 / 1)
Listen closer, but I, and probably many others where ever else you post, know you won't, you only hear what you want to and can't grasp the reality, showing that over and over!!

Glad I never served with you, and I know many many may....... who would feel same!!

What you're saying above is You Agree with him, using the "he might know something" meme and if so it's OK by you!!!

This smuck, and this isn't the first wacky statement made, is so overboard that there isn't an Active Duty Officer, much less one with Security Clearance that would talk to him, he's another of the paid lackie "experts?', we already went through that with the others!!

Oh and don't use that 'free speach' crap, talking as what's heard over and over on FOX boarders on Exactly what those you hate, saudi's and all, same speak, you don't like that but accept from those you follow!!

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


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First of all (0.00 / 0)
Peters' may well be privy to information that the rest of us are not. I can guarantee that I knew the real story behind Waleef Hassoun before the press did. Or at least before the press actually reported it.

Wacky statements? Well he has made a few, but how many were truly wacky and how many simply were referred to as wacky because they didn't fit in with someone's political agenda or weren't PC enough? Those statements also strike me as coming from any sort of lackey either.

http://www.armedforcesjournal....

By driving Saudi Arabia into a government breakdown, we might dry up the funding for Wahhabi missionary efforts that wreak havoc on states from Pakistan to Nigeria, while diverting Sunni Arab resources and energies to internal struggles in place of the export of fanaticism.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05...

So here's another easy thing Congress can do: Prohibit foreign funding, direct or indirect, of US religious institutions and schools by the government or citizens of any state that denies religious freedom to its own residents. No churches in Saudi Arabia? OK, no Saudi-controlled madrassahs in Virginia.

While the nut house government in Tehran is a deadly problem, it's ultimately one of lesser scale. Our greatest enemy, anywhere, is Saudi Arabia, the cradle of terror.

I hardly consider any of those statements to be wacky. More like fucking genius, not to mention pretty damn ballsy in our current political climate.


Oh and don't use that 'free speach' crap, talking as what's heard over and over on FOX boarders on Exactly what those you hate, saudi's and all, same speak, you don't like that but accept from those you follow!!

Nobody whom actually knew anything about the Saudis would say such a thing, unless they were aiming to win brownie points with certain segments of the political crowd vice living in the real world. And there happens to be a wonderful, perfectly designed invention for anyone whom doesn't like FOX news. It's called a TV remote.

And riddle me this Batman, whom exactly do I follow? Personally I don't see myself as following anyone and generally spend my time reading actual books written by people whom actually know what they are talking about vice listening to 30 second soundbites designed for people with room temperature IQs and 1 page editorials loaded with more political crap than pertinent information.



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Although (0.00 / 0)
Glad I never served with you, and I know many many may....... who would feel same!!

You might want to take another at the title of this blog pal. It is titled VetVoice: The Voice of America's 21st Century Patriots.

Last I checked I am both an American and a veteran whom served honorably. If you take an issue with another individual such as myself, whom actually served expressing a different opinion than what trumps your politico reality, then please feel free to issue well thought out, principled rebuttals. But at the same end, who gave your little group a monopoly of opinions held by veterans regarding various issues? I'd like to know.

And if you are going to take cheap shots like those above, then my only advice to you is to kindly go fuck yourself.  


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It doesn't matter what Info Peters is "privvy to", he is beyond an ass (4.00 / 1)
calling for the 'enemy' to kill a US Soldier. No one died and gave him the authority to be Judge and Jury let alone call for the "death penalty" for anybody. There is no hedge or wiggle room that can justify Peters comments.

What's more my guess is that Peters has availed himself of no info beyond the "he walked off post after his shift" which his comments indicates.

As to his buddies not speaking up to defend Bowe, anybody with a brain would know that they've been ordered not to speak just like his parents were. Communications blackout is SOP while things are under investigation.

No one called for censorship, just called for common sense and a sense of duty.

As for the "duck tape and thrown into the closet" comment, that is obviously a hyberbole. Maybe saying Peters should STFU would have been easier for you, Fred to understand.


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I don't know (0.00 / 0)
The real story regarding Waleef Hassoun was pretty common knowledge in my old unit. I didn't get there till after the whole thing cleared up, but I don't remember hearing of any real communications black out during that incident. I'm sure they told them not to talk about it to the press, but whom is to say that someone didn't say something to someone who said something to someone etc. I am definitely not insinuating that such a thing actually did happen, but it is theoretically possible that Peters may have information that the press has not reported on or even knows about.

Needless to say, the Taliban remark was over the top any way you look at it. Granted, I would have seen it as rating lower on the outrage scale if Peters had info that the guy actually was a deserter.

Oh well. Why couldn't Peters have just STFU regarding this subject and talked about the Saudis instead? His analysis of the Saudis is right on the money and much more pertinent, not to mention sensible.    


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By cleared up (0.00 / 0)
I mean Hassoun was safely recovered from whichever insurgent group supposedly held him. I don't think they ever found him after he deserted the second time following his return Stateside. And I stand corrected on the name. It's actually Wassef Hassoun.  

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Although (0.00 / 0)
if you find any updates on the Hassoun case, please post. I haven't been able to find anything.  

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This from 05 seems to be the last report: (0.00 / 0)
http://www.militantislamicmoni...

This has him in US custody in Lebanon where he was staying with family.

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CBS Up-to-the-minute is reporting that Dowe's unit is at the tip of the spear leading a massive search for Dowe right now.

They are pointing out that the Dowe family and small town stayed/staying quiet to protect Dowe's identity per DoD request.


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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
that's about the last I heard on Hassoun too. Well there was this story back in 06 about Lebanon refusing to extradite him, but I wasn't particularly swayed by it one way or the other.

Oh well. Regardless of what the real story ends up being here, the family is clearly going through an ordeal and I just don't see where the constant media coverage helps anyone, much less them. Maybe Peters and the MSM will both STFU on this issue.  


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Some of Peters' good points (0.00 / 0)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05...

As I insinuated earlier, I do not agree with his recent comments and found them to be extremely over the top. But at the same end,  anyone who mans up regarding the Saudi issue deserves to keep their job.  


Out of line! (4.00 / 1)
Peters' comments were unnecessarily accusatory.  I hope the media will follow this up when Bergdahl is released and provide details into his capture.  But....... after listening to the news networks too much, I see only a glimmer of hope for detailed follow-up.

It was (4.00 / 1)
Said earlier today, by another retired Officer, on CNN, that this is sounding like the Tillman spin, coming out of the Army. He also said that the Foreign Military Officials he talks to have told him they don't want to hear us preaching on how 'outraged' we are about the incident nor the film, we don't have a moral highground standard anymore!

Can't remember his name but he does show up on a number of the cable channels and I believe he was high up in the cheney administration.

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


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Agree, but........ (0.00 / 0)
The DOD should be more forthcoming with the truth, and not hide, spin, fabricate, or minimize details of "what actually happened."  If there's a security issue, then fine, but the public is getting wise to DOD's manipulations.  The movie "Good Morning Vietnam" is the perfect (fictional) example.  

But I gotta disagree with your slamming of Fred and Fox News.  Until we know "the truth" we shouldn't dismiss the unlikely POSSIBILTY of Peters' comments, although he shouldn't have come across with the arrogance and certainty that he did.  And I have to give Fox News credit for highlighting all views and sides to this issue, good and bad.  I noticed in the interview that the anchor-woman stated (after Peters' comments) that No Harm is hoped for any US soldier, ever.  A no-brainer.

Anyway...... bottom line: we should all pray for Bergdahl's imminent and safe release.  There's no up-side for the Taliban to hurt this guy and neither is there any up-side to the DOD's dancing around this issue.


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Glad somebody finally said that this is starting to soundi like another "Pat (0.00 / 0)
Tillman".  


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Credibility? What credibility? (0.00 / 0)
Look up Ralph Peters' service record. Born 1952, took college deferments until the Vietnam war was over, enlisted in 1976, putting it off until he was SURE his skin would be safe from combat duties. And from there, an unhindered rise to the kind of "prominence" he demonstrates today. A COWARD. A MONSTER. UNFORTUNATELY FOR ALL OF US, HE TYPIFIES A BREED OF "AMERICAN" THAT OPERATES WITH IMPUNITY AND ISN"T GOING AWAY.

(Hit the ole caps lock accidentally, decided to leave it looking like i'm screaming, CUZ I AM!)

Check out the weird megalomaniacal books he writes. Another corrupt chickenhawk who doesn't blush at his galling  unsuitability as an "expert" on soldiering in wars.


While I can agree that his recent comments (0.00 / 0)
were completely uncalled for, Peters did serve his country in uniform. If you are going to make bold accusations that he weaseled out of combat, then please have the common decency to post evidence of such behavior here.  

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