After Detroit Near-Attack, Is Afghan Strategy the Right One?

by: Jon Soltz

Fri Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:01 AM EST


The failed bombing of a Detroit-bound airplane by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab has raised a ton of questions - from what holes there are in airline security, to how he wasn't picked up before on suspicion of terrorist activity.  But, to me and the forces in or heading to Afghanistan, one of the most pressing questions is why we're sending nearly every Marine and Soldier we have to Afghanistan, when Abdulmutallab and a Somali man arrested for plotting a similar attack last month apparently had no real connection to al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

Indeed, as now has been widely reported, Abdulmutallab received materials and training in Yemen, a largely lawless, poor country just south of Saudi Arabia.  The Somali man, picked up in Mogadishu, seems to have been wearing a similar device as Abdulmutallab, suggesting he received his materials and training from al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula as well.

Yes, the United States has done some right things to address the threat from this region - sending over $40 million in aid to Yemen last year to fight the squalor-like conditions in which many Yemenis live, and contributes to an atmosphere that breeds terror, and nearly $70 million in counter-terror funds, to help the government directly combat al-Qaeda.  Those funds are expected to increase this year, as well they should.

Clearly, however, money is not enough.  It's not enough to fight al-Qaeda in Yemen, or anywhere else throughout Africa, or any region in the future where al-Qaeda takes foot.  The United States and its allies have the right to work in conjunction with governments to strike al-Qaeda camps and leaders, or do it ourselves if the in-country government is unable to.

That leads me back to Afghanistan/Pakistan.  Yes, the region is still a major center of al Qaeda activity, and yes, our military must be involved in the region to strike at the terror network.  But, given the ability of al-Qaeda to spread and pop up in areas around the globe where we are not present, it simply doesn't make sense anymore to engage in a long-term counter-insurgency strategy in Afghanistan, which focuses on beating back insurgents rather than al Qaeda, and securing the country at large.  That strategy relies on nearly every troop we have, and could have many of them stuck there far past President Obama's 2011 deadline, given Richard Engel's recent report on NBC that Afghan security forces are nowhere near ready, and may never be.

Now, yes, if it works, a counter-insurgency strategy could largely quiet al-Qaeda in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region, the same as a narrower counter-terror strategy would, but at what cost?  What about the other branches of al-Qaeda around the world?  It's clear they'll simply pick up the slack, in terms of striking the U.S.  Without enough forces to stay flexible ourselves, and without indigenous governments capable of crushing al-Qaeda in their nation, we're simply letting al-Qaeda breed elsewhere, largely unfettered.

So, as President Obama examines the holes in security, he would be wise to also reexamine his decision to commit almost every troop we have to Afghanistan.  Sun Tsu said to know thy enemy and thyself.  We know al-Qaeda isn't going to stay put to fight where we want to fight.  We know that we simply don't have the numbers to secure all of Afghanistan as part of a long-term counter-insurgency and fight al-Qaeda elsewhere.  Combined, those facts suggest the far wiser course for the U.S. is to not rely on a counter-insurgency strategy in Afghanistan for the long-term, but free up troops to take part in counter-terror operations in Afghanistan, Yemen, or wherever al-Qaeda may try to set up base next.

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This is such a complicated problem ... (0.00 / 0)
... and it is hard to know what the answer is.

One thing seems certain - it's going to take more than just a counter-terrorism approach by the US military and its allies in Afghanistan/Pakistan, and beyond. It may take an entirely new way of looking at foreign policy, as a whole, and an extraordinary change in the dynamics of the political relationships between the US and countries across the Muslim world, particularly with respect to countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

What really worries me is how much past polices and strategies, particularly over the course of the last decade,  have set us back when it comes to being able to deal effectively with the threat of terrorism. Are we at a point now where, no matter what we do, we can't get there from here?

One obvious challenge is to avoid increasing the ranks of the terrorists while attempting to destroy al-Qaeda and their ilk and deny them their safe havens. Until we're ready to take on all of the components of an effective strategy - military, geopolitical, diplomatic, comprehensive and cooperative intelligence capability, economic, cultural, etc. all we will be doing, it seems to me, is fighting a losing battle.

The decision to increase troop levels in Afghanistan seems to have been made before some of the other equally important components to the overall strategy of eliminating the forces of al-Qaeda have even begun to be developed. And, the new Afghanistan policy seems to continue to be dependent on a strong central government in Kabul which says to me that we still don't understand the roots of what we are trying to eliminate on a global basis.


Beautifully put, Elizabeth. It's two wars-- (0.00 / 0)
fighting al-Qaeda globally, and whoever doesn't want us in Afghanistan, there.  

As you said, the best way to handle al-Qaeda globally, IMHO, is to deal much more intelligently with Muslim countries.  Tailor policy individually and with sensitivity toward the political, cultural, and economic situation of nations or groups within nations.  al-Qaeda and other extremist groups thrive on resentment of U.S. attitude and actions.  Isolate and separate them from the overwhelming majority of nonviolent Muslims.

Inside Afghanistan--leave, after a very structured. scheduled, and concentrated effort to find and destroy weapons caches.  If our resources weren't spread out wherever there are Taliban-hunting, nation-building, and other poorly-understood missions planned, our military might be able to do this.

The alternative would be to simply pull out, but leaving the warlord's enormous piles of weapons would doom Afghan efforts to put their country right.  I'm afraid it would mean a lot of casualties. But to spend a finite time doing that and then leave--fewer than staying.  I can't believe I can write that.  

That  would give Afghans a chance to put their country right after we're gone (and not be a place our troops would have to return to).  Because we have to leave, for the good of Afghanistan and for ourselves.


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I think we have to be clear about what we mean by "leaving" Afghanistan. (0.00 / 0)
I still think that increasing the number of troops in Afghanistan is counterproductive in the long run and that it will be seen as a serious mistake in US policy there.

But, while increasing NATO's military footprint, instead of decreasing it, may be problematic, it is clear now that the US - along with others in the international community, including the UN - can never "leave" Afghanistan. But, it is going to be extremely difficult to get the policy correct there and to put the  regional strategy on the right course to be effective - in political, economic and diplomatic terms. And, sending in more troops doesn't make any of this any easier!


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Why can we never leave Afghanistan? (0.00 / 0)
How about "leaving" NATO military with technical expertise  educated to train troops of another country and culture as well as their having the technical expertise.  Assign troops, of a force and type decided by politically disinterested on-the-ground military minds, for protection (knowing that total protection is not an option).  

Keep them there for the necessary length of time to train  Afghan troops in protecting their citizens against violence from whatever source.  The length of time?  Determined through cooperative counsel with Afghan military personnel who have proved themselves to be as apolitical and dedicated to peace in Afghanistan as any can be.  

Do our level best to identify and truly support civilian leaders who have their country's best interests at heart, even if those don't mirror current or imagined U.S. economic and political interests.*

Pulling out our troops would then be a move toward Afghan stability if it can ever develop.  Instead of military activity counterproductive to eliminating al-Qaeda, we then should use our heads re Pakistan.  As this discussion started, concentrate on isolating violent extremists with intelligent U.S. policy toward the Muslim world.

A heightened level of stability and peace in Afghanistan would be the best outcome of any possible outcomes for the U.S.

*This will take understanding the difference between those extremists aiming at power through fear and violence, and homegrown "insurgents" in Afghanistan fighting invasion and destruction from outside their geography or sovereignty.  Many of us here figure we'd be one of them were we in the same situation.  

That's been voiced on this site many times.  I myself have clear memories of idolizing Hungarian and Czechoslovakian insurgents over half a century ago, along with the rest of the United States.  Of course, I was pre-utero at the time, just a military-political twinkle in my father's eye, haha.  Yes, I do remember.  Then there was Vietnam.  

It's so far past our time to learn something from all the death and destruction.

9/11 is not pertinent (Bush/Cheney " thinking," RIP).  We just can't get rid of bin Laden or al-Qaeda with military force.


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I'm not (0.00 / 0)
sure it is all that complicated overall. The evidence is pretty concrete in regards to the Saudi Arabian religious establishment being responsible for al Qaida, the Taliban, and a slew of other Wahhabi movements.

Common sense would say that we ally with the Shia, Sufis, and other Muslims whom are being subverted and massacred by the Wahhabis/Saudi Arabia.

Unfortunately billions of dollars, lots of oil, and a general lack of principles and/or intestinal fortitude make common sense an uncommon virtue in Washington DC.

As for the developmental aid we put into the Arab world, I wonder how much of it ends up in Swiss bank accounts.



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I couldn't agree more when you say... (0.00 / 0)
"Unfortunately billions of dollars, lots of oil, and a general lack of principles and/or intestinal fortitude make common sense an uncommon virtue in Washington DC."

I do still believe, though, that if any US administration can make progress in this regard, it's the current crew!

And, it's not just development aid and a certain business-as-usual approach that we need here. What we need here is complete and total change in the way we operate and cooperate on all geopolitical issues, on all levels, across all borders if we have any hope of eliminating the threat of al-Qaeda and their ilk.

Good luck to us!


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Elizabeth, AMEN! (0.00 / 0)
Which is also Arabic, and Islamic (not the"Elizabeth" part, of course--but the biblical Elizabeth is part of Islam.  I just have no clue how to say "Elizabeth" in Arabic).

Fred, Wahab is a Saudi family name, a historical overlap but not synonymous with extremist Islamist movements.  

Two examples of what informing U.S. policy with cultural accuracy and respect is, and isn't, all about.  

IMH and quite decently well-informed--if I may be a little un-H here--O.  


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And the (0.00 / 0)
current Wahhabi movement in Saudi Arabia was founded by a guy in 18th Century Arabia by a guy named Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab. Pretty much every Sunni Islamist movement receives large chunks of cash plus religious guidance from the Saudi religious establishment.

Sure there was Ibn Tamiyya back in the 13th-14th centuries whom espoused many of the same beliefs that the Wahhabis espouse, but his ideas were largely rejected by the Islamic world at the time and it was Abdul Wahhab whom managed to create a state based on such principles through an alliance forged through a marriage with one Ibn Saud.

And sure the Wahhabis destroyed Shiite and Sufi shrines and slaughtered infidels back in those days, but given recent events, it's kind of hard to argue that they don't still do such things. Recent genocide against Shia in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan? Check. Attacks on Shia Shrines? Check. Bulldozing the Prophet Muhammad's home and shrines? Check. Women treated as cattle? Check. Butchering Christians in the Balkans? Check. Religious Apartheid States? Check. There was also the utter butchery in Algeria against the polytheists back in the 1990s, and how about that attempt to replace the Chechen constitution with the Constitution of Saudi Arabia? There is also that little section in the Koran where the Prophet states that People of the Book(jews and christians) are to be protected. The Wahhabis can hardly be accused of living up to that one.

Of course there were also the Muslim Brotherhood movements some years back, but when the secular Arab regimes had enough of them, who picked up the tab and offered them refuge? The Saudis. Besides, much of the Muslim Brotherhood ideologies were based on the works of Ibn Taymiyya, whom also served as the inspiration for Wahhabism, so I highly doubt that they were that different in terms of ideology to begin with.

Now I have a few questions of my own

1. For all of the talk on the Left of cultural understanding, has the Left ever actually read a history of Saudi Arabia or even the Middle East? And no, I don't mean a Saudi history from the official Saudi Ministry either.

2. If the Left wouldn't think the Nazis or the Apartheid government in South Africa deserving of respect, why would they think a backwards tribal culture with a God whom likes to hurt people that views women as cattle would be deserving of respect?

Sorry, but I simply have no respect for a culture that slaps around and sexually assaults women that don't wear burquas and forces school girls back into burning buildings for not wearing the proper head gear.

Of course the entire religion of Islam is not made up of such barbarians, but I am sad to say that those barbarians ended up with the oil money at the end of the day.



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You've got a pile of anecdotes to throw around. (0.00 / 0)
That's not the same as understanding.  Would you be more amenable to looking at Muslim nations as individuals, and agree to dealing with them where they are, without squishing them into U.S. mini-me's, if doing so would create peace, cooperation instead of terrorism and violence, build everyone's economy, here and in Muslim countries?  That would improve women's status more than anything else, if that's a large concern for you (as it is for me).

Or is there some kind of principle in there that those people have to be eliminated first?  Yes those awful things happen there--I just stated what would end them.

They happen other places too.   You don't hear much about fundamentalist Protestants in South and Central America attacking nearby Roman Catholic towns and slaughtering their inhabitants, do you?  It happens.  A president of Guatemala not too long ago, a fundamentalist evangelist ""Christian," did his own slaughtering for years.

What's the connection?  As soon as that kind of thing starts, it's not religion anymore, it's plain old political (power-based) violence.  And the God that Islamist and Christianist hypocrites cite isn't the one that Muslims, Jews, and Christians agree on.

Doesn't change how evil it is, just makes me wonder why you're not advocating troops in those areas.  Not to U.S. advantage to send them?  Then drop the idea of being moral masters in Muslim countries--we're there for self-interest.

The "God whom [sic] likes to hurt people that views women as cattle"  is invented to give an excuse for those things.  Forget about religion in your examples above.  It's a distraction.  It's all about power and violence and just deal with it as such.

We have our own Wahabs.  They're still floating around but they don't represent us unless we give in to narrow judgment and end up ruining our own country by trying to wipe out everyone we don't agree with.


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Problem with the (0.00 / 0)
Wahhabi/AQ/Taymiyya/Muslim Brotherhood gang  is that they are intent on actively spreading and implementing their draconian ideology through tactics including subversion and violence. They tend to view any attempt at cultural understanding to be a sign of weakness and will only accept peace on their terms, which I think the civilized world can agree is unacceptable.

And I disagree that Wahhabism has nothing to do with Islam or religion. The Saudis are currently in possession of both of the Holy Cities, have billions of dollars, and are widely regarded as the leader of the Sunni Islamic community, especially in the West. It probably shouldn't be that way, but that's the way it is.

No I would not support troops in Central/South America. Nor would I support troops in a place like Northern Ireland, where Catholics and Protestants have been known to engage in violence for the simple reason that such conflicts appear to be local in nature and do not threaten the US's national security. On the other hand the Wahhabi/AQ gang has proven itself a threat to the US's national security, as well as the World's security.

As far as economic factors go, I am inclined to think that many in the West are applying Western theories which do not exactly apply to the Arab world. Poverty may play some role, but I largely am inclined to think that the major factor driving the Sunni Islamists besides the obviously nefarious Saudi actions would be the fact that the Arab states are largely tyrannical, corrupt police states which are often associated with secularism. Well that and I tend to think that many Western "experts" vastly underestimate the influence of religion in the Middle East.

 


[ Parent ]
We disagree, but your argument is really good-- (0.00 / 0)
and U.S. policy should be based on what is real, not imagined from a Western point of view.

Most of my information on that issue-- what drives the anger at the U.S.--is based on the people I know from Muslim countries.  Invariably, the well-to-do decry everything Islamist, and the poor oppose the violence but understand the motivation.  It's not so much our economic dominance but that it leads to cultural and political dominance.

A very fine line.


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VIDEO: Gen. Wes Clark commented on this in a FOX News interview: (0.00 / 0)
http://securingamerica.com/ccn...

VIDEO: Gen. Clark on The O'Reilly Factor on Tuesday, Dec. 29

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 30, 2009 - 3:20am.

http://video.foxnews.com/12938...  (7:34)

New Terrorist Hotbed

December 29, 2009

New Terrorist Hotbed

Detroit airliner plot brings spotlight on Yemen

Also, Michael Ware has understood how difficult that Afghanistan really is for a long time:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn...

Michael Ware used the CNN "Magic Map" to show how difficult that Afghanistan is

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 30, 2009 - 6:40am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn...

Michael Ware said what he would do if he could talk with Obama about Afghanistan

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on November 25, 2009 - 7:55am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn...

Michael Ware: "America cannot win the war in Afghanistan with bombs and bullets"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 10, 2009 - 1:47pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn...

Michael Ware explained why our major operation in Afghanistan will not be easy

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 2, 2009 - 6:52am.


On The NewsHour Last Night: Analysis (0.00 / 0)
Pakistan Blast Sharpens Concerns on Taliban

Following a week in which militant attacks killed seven CIA operatives in Afghanistan and at least 75 people at a volleyball match in Pakistan, Ray Suarez speaks with a pair of experts about rising instability in the region...Transcript and Video/Audio

The growth of not only the Taliban but also al Qaeda factions in the border region, Afghanistan and Pakistan can be brought right back at the previous administration and walking out to Iraq while causing Afghanistan to stagnate, but also in the dealings of our government with Pakistan at that time.

That growth as well as the last eight years, also the Israeli actions on the Palestinians, have caused what's seemingly a huge growth in al Qaeda factions, whether directly affiliated or just flying under that banner to be recognized as being a part of the larger enemy of the west, someone mentioned the other day they really enjoy being called 'terrorist', i.e. warriors, rather then criminals which is what the label 'terrorist' and directed at one name, al Qaeda, gives them.

I'm still trying to figure out why these News outlets keep using Michael Scheuer as the ex-cia spokesperson, plenty of much better ones to choose from, but he only makes a couple of really short statement points in this report prior to discussion and does no damage.

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


Commanders Failed Them....... (0.00 / 0)
Stryker soldiers say commanders failed them

But the beauty deceives.

Beneath the branches, the Arghandab's signature pomegranates lie in rotting piles and the orchards are strewn with booby traps ready to sever a limb or take a life. Gunfire and explosions echo from end to end of the valley's lush "green zone." Once known as the breadbasket of Afghanistan, the Arghandab has become a killing field.

Battle has been joined in the valley because of its proximity to Kandahar city, a rich prize two miles to the east across a razor-backed ridgeline. Until this summer, insurgent control of the valley was unchallenged. Then 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 5th Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, moved in, and the fight was on.

The vicious struggle in and around the Arghandab since the battalion's arrival has killed 21 1-17 soldiers and more than 50 insurgents, led to a popular company commander's controversial replacement and raised questions about the best role for Stryker units in Afghanistan.

It has also caused the soldiers at the tip of the spear that the United States hurled into the Arghandab to accuse their battalion and brigade commanders of not following the guidance of senior coalition commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal to adopt a "population-centric" counterinsurgency approach. And now, reeling from the deaths of their comrades and the removal of their company commander, the troops have been ordered out of the Arghandab, a move they say feels like a defeat...>>>>>



'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


Maybe we should be (0.00 / 0)
supporting the Houthis in Yemen. The Houthis are no friends of the AQ/Wahhabi gang and I can't say that the Yemeni government has proven itself a reliable ally thus far.

Besides, supporting the Houthis might, just might marginilize Iran's influence in the region too.

Of course the Houthis are waging an armed insurgency against the governmnent, but anyone that thinks any regime in the Arab world has an inherent right to exist is off their rocker if you ask me.



The Houthis are willing to negotiate a settlement with Saudi Arabia and (0.00 / 0)
Yemen.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/...

And let's take a look at Yemen: A very poor nation running out of water and oil that is both desert and inhospitable mountains with separatists in the south, the Houthis, and AQ with a clan/tribal structure leaving a central government with almost no power. Qat [Khat] is the widely used drug of choice and there are 4 times the number of guns, mostly AK-47s, than people with 1/2 the population under 14.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#...

After the US airstrikes-drone attacks in Dec, I think the US support of the Houthis is off of the table.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...


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I wouldn't (0.00 / 0)
put too much faith in the Houthis willing to negotiate. That whole thing reeks of Arab diplomacy, which often ends up meaning absolutely nothing.

As far as supporting the Houthis, maybe that is a bit of a stretch. But at the same end, supporting the Saudis against the Houthis makes absolutely no sense.

Of course there is the issue regarding the Houthis connections to Iran. However, who poses the greater threat to the US's national security? Iran or Saudi Arabia?

As for the Yemeni government, can we really blame anyone for taking up arms against any government in the Arab world. After all, they pretty much all are police states rife with corruption.



[ Parent ]
Yemen has been as reliable an "ally" (0.00 / 0)
as any impoverished nation dependent upon outside funding and beset with internal violence could be.

Judging nations and people with the most incredibly complicated and life-threatening problems by black and white, Western-based norms, isn't helpful.

Here's a link with a brief idea of what Yemen, however flawed, is trying to deal with (hope it works!)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...


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Not really (0.00 / 0)
I simply have not been seeing that big results from Yemen against AQ thus far. In fact, there have been several incidents which would indicate that they haven't been all that helpful there and it's no secret that various regimes often crack down on internal dissidents, then hustle money from the US by claiming that they are fighting al Qaida.

Besides, Yemen is a corruption ridden police state and US support for corrupt Arab police states is a major rallying call for various anti-American groups, including AQ. We should be demanding alot more from them or we could simply cut them off.

Lastly, I don't see where the Houthi rebellion has a whole lot to do with US national security. In fact, I tend to empathize with the Shia. After all, the Shia are generally the oppressed ones in the Muslim world. They also strike me as being far more rational and progressive than the Sunni Islamists/Wahhabis.  


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Granted I must ask (0.00 / 0)
exactly how was I judging a people again? That would be rather hard to do given that there is not one government in the Arab world that would appear to truly speak for its people.

As for judging nations, well referring to most of the territories in the Arab world as countries could be construed as using Western based norms, as most of the borders there were drawn by Western powers.

As far as black and white goes, such thinking tends to be more prevalent in the Arab world IMHO. As for judging Yemen, I pretty much know exactly what the government there is up to. They are looking out for their own interests, which are not necessarly concurrent with the US's interests.  


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Somali Pirates hijack 4th vessel this week... (0.00 / 0)
One of the scores this week was a 'chemical' tanker.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WO...


OMG. (0.00 / 0)
That's often all that I can say to some of the news you bring to my attention.

Should we know what's in there or not?  I vote for knowing, even though all I'll probably be able to say when finding out is OMG again.

In the end, I'm just a mom, really.  My son will probably have a ship soon, and he's already got Somali-area piracy experience.  


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Not Good, SOI Targetted (0.00 / 0)
Expected, i.e. shades of another DeJa-Vu 'Nam, but it won't bold well if the U.S. Military, and they are, try the same in Afghanistan as the Afghans and Pakistan Taliban, and others, have probably known about and been watching this unfold long before we are hearing about it, especially with what little News of Iraq comes out now as the focus is on Afghanistan, Somalia and now Yemen!!

'Sons of Iraq' face weakened power

The killing of several members of the U.S.-allied Sunni militias known as "Sons of Iraq" has underscored the increasing weakness of groups widely credited with helping turn the tide of the Iraq war.

About a dozen members of the groups have been killed in the rural areas south of Baghdad in recent weeks, U.S. military officials say. Similar attacks have occurred elsewhere, including the execution-style killing of five SOI members north of Baghdad on Tuesday.

Snip

SOI leaders, meanwhile, said their dwindling numbers were forcing them to close down some checkpoints and further endanger security.

"We have a shortage of guys," said Sheik Najam Abbas Saif, who heads an SOI group near Mahmudiyah. "We have a lot of gaps."...>>>>>

And it's anyones guess what the ruling here on the Blackwater mercs might cause there, even though the Iraqi Government says it will continue pursuing their own judgment in their courts, as to any U.S. troops at the bases there, earlier last month there was a reported rocket attack on the greenzone.  

'Hearts and Minds, "The ultimate victory will depend on the hearts and minds of the people who actually live there." -- President Lyndon Johnson


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